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Re: Mille Lacs resorts
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Maybe try different locations on the lake? A couple times I've fished opposite sides of the lake in the same day to try a different location, in hopes to find more fish.

I have wondered why there seems to be a cold attitude about bass fishermens' effect on the local economy. At this point I'd think any business you can get should be happily welcomed.

Posted on: 8/2 12:15:57
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Re: Mille Lacs resorts
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The handful of times that I went to ML this year, there were multiple out-of-state trucks and trailers parked at the public accesses. One weeknight 4 of the 9 parked at the landing were out-of-state. I doubt they were doing day trips, and based on the boats I saw, they weren't walleye fishing.

Posted on: 8/2 11:00:35
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Re: Buying minnows in Canada
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Rainy Lake Sports is good, otherwise The Great Bear is a good shop about 8 miles east of Fort Frances. I'm sure Dryden has somewhere to get bait too. Good luck!

The Great Bear

Rainy Lake Sports

Posted on: 7/18 14:51:16
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Re: Mandatory Boat-Wash/Inspection Station in Annandale?
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With respect, you seem to be suggesting that because they're trying, they must be succeeding in some measure that cannot be measured. I'm looking at the ever-growing list of infested lakes, and saying, they've failed, and that because if that failure, I am not open to just accepting new restrictions without scrutiny, from the same people who have failed up to this point.


To each their own. I personally believe that humans are nearly the sole transporter of AIS so it's our responsibility to do simple measures that can slow the spread by removing weeds and draining the water from our watercrafts and trailers. I believe that the awareness about AIS has increased and people have become better at doing those simple measures. Like I said earlier, it's pure laziness and carelessness to not do so. I guess I like to take the optimistic approach and like to believe that the added awareness has resulted in fewer infested lakes compared to if there never were laws and added awareness.

But back to the Wright County restrictions, I agree that those proposed restrictions are unjust and they should have scrutiny.

Posted on: 7/18 9:31:02
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Re: Mandatory Boat-Wash/Inspection Station in Annandale?
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I don't see the word "stop" anywhere on this page, and used only 6 times (in 70 pages) in the management plan PDF, 4 times the word stop was used as part of the slogan "Stop Aquatic Hitchikers!".

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/invasives/eco/index.html

Program Purpose

Curb the spread and minimize harmful effects of nonnative species that can: cause displacement of, or otherwise threaten, native species in their natural communities; or threaten natural resources or their use in the state.

Program Goals

Prevent introductions of new invasive species into Minnesota.
Prevent the spread of invasive species within Minnesota.
Reduce the impacts caused by invasive species to Minnesota's ecology, society, and economy.

Posted on: 7/18 9:11:00
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Re: Mandatory Boat-Wash/Inspection Station in Annandale?
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Results are very tough to prove. It's easy to point out the fact that there continues to be newly infested lakes, but if there weren't laws against the transportation of water and weeds and added awareness regarding AIS, who knows how many more lakes would be infested. There is no possible way to measure that. Instead all we have is broad speculation about the effectiveness of the laws and awareness...


Exactly right. And that is an awfully thin justification upon which to enact broad policy, not to mention spend tax dollars. They haven't proved results. They cannot prove results. There's no way to know whether what they've already done has accomplished anything at all, and even if we assume it has accomplished something we cannot measure, there's certainly no way to quantify it for the purposes of judging whether it's worth continuing, let alone expanding.

Questioning the justifiability of AIS policy is the logical thing to do when they've failed so miserably to accomplish what they've stated as their objective.


Those statements seem to be contradicting of eachother, saying you can't prove results, then claiming that they've failed so miserably. And what is the stated objective?

Posted on: 7/18 8:32:27
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Re: Best map cards/depth charts???
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If you're looking for maps of lakes in Quetico, you won't find them on Lakemaster, and I'm almost positive that you won't have any aerial imagery on either the MN card or LOTW/Rainy card.

So, what areas/lakes/states are you looking for?

Posted on: 7/17 19:53:29
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Re: Mandatory Boat-Wash/Inspection Station in Annandale?
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Saying, "anything will help slow down the problem," and "it's better to do something than to do nothing," sound nice, but both statements defy the reality of the situation. AIS have been a reality for decades; the DNR has imposed increasingly inconvenient restrictions on boaters and anglers at the cost of tens-of-millions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of wasted man-hours.

The result? Unfettered spread of AIS. If the cost, restrictions, inconvenience, and time spent were paying off with an actual solution to the problem, measured by RESULTS, results being a halt to the spread of AIS, then we would have very little about which to complain.

But the reality is, they've done all this, and there is no sign that they have done a single solitary thing to prevent the spread of AIS. The evidence of increasing numbers of infested lakes shows that everything they've done has been a failure.

Now they're implementing yet another costly, inconvenient, restrictive measure with no clue as to whether it will be effective. In fact, there IS a clue, and that is the absolute failure up until this point.


I wouldn't consider pulling your drain plug, drain livewell, and cleaning weeds off a trailer as an "imposed increasingly inconvenient restrictions". To me, that's a simple task and not doing so is pure laziness and carelessness. Poor attitudes towards the laws only makes matters worse.

I will say that I've been quite disappointed with the local county AIS inspectors who do the simple survey and very quick walk-around and no communication (where were you, where are you going next, have a good day), compared to the DNR inspectors that actually inform you about the scientific aspect of the AIS, what to look for, and what's been done and can be done. Unfortunately I've only ran into the DNR folks a couple of times, but the county inspectors a couple dozen times with each time being less and less impressed with them.

Results are very tough to prove. It's easy to point out the fact that there continues to be newly infested lakes, but if there weren't laws against the transportation of water and weeds and added awareness regarding AIS, who knows how many more lakes would be infested. There is no possible way to measure that. Instead all we have is broad speculation about the effectiveness of the laws and awareness. In my opinion, I do feel that the spread has slowed and I think it's due to added awareness.

As for the Wright County deal, I think decontamination idea is a bad idea and if passed, I fear that it could be the start of a slippery slope for other areas. I'm not a fan of lake associations, first because of their very strong oppositions on muskie stocking based on foolish reasons, and now this. I agree with the notion that in order to combat the overreaching associations we need to have more unified group of people who present ourselves respectfully and wisely.

Posted on: 7/17 19:46:54
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Re: Best map cards/depth charts???
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Lakemaster PLUS has aerial photography. I've tried it on the Rainy River, it was ok, but I didn't seem to find the added value in it. If you're geographically/directionally challenged it may be handy as an added reference.

https://www.humminbird.com/Category/Technology/LakeMaster-PLUS/

Posted on: 7/17 19:13:52
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Re: Best map cards/depth charts???
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I fully agree with Janderson. Go with Lakemaster. The depth highlight feature is very nice, and the comment about real 1 ft contours is important. Navionics has quite a few lakes that have 1ft contours but its just the 5ft contour DNR lake maps with lines added in between so they really aren't HD surveyed maps.

Posted on: 7/16 8:49:18
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