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Re: Lower Red Lake fishing
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" Recently some fish have vegetation on them, like some heavy seaweed on their scales. This could either mean they are following the river currents and feeding, or in the shallows like 6 feet then return sometime during the day,"
I find this very interesting, something to think about.
Thanks for the post and information.

Posted on: 2/15 23:50:57
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Re: Red Lake
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"Just wondering if anybody has a idea why the lack of success this year??"
Not picking on you at all Eaglebeak. I'm just using your post to give people/fishermen something to think or argue about.
"That's one of the few good reports I've seen all year, including summer."
For the 2016 summer season we harvested just under 78,000 pounds of walleyes from the State waters. 2015 summer season, 35,000 pounds. 2006 through 2014 summer seasons averaged 56,548 pounds per season.
" If the population isn't down on state waters then why has the fishing been so bad? "
Lets imagine that there are 5,000 groups with 3 people in each group fishing 1 weekend. That is wheelhouses, portables or renting a house Friday, Sat,. and Sunday. Each group catches 2 fish per day. 6 fish for 3 people in 3 days. Sounds like pretty poor fishing doesn't it? But add the numbers up and that is over 30,000 pounds of walleyes. In 1 weekend! That "pie" of fish is still there to be caught but everybody's slice of the pie has become a lot smaller with the increased fishing pressure.
" I have seen pics of the walleyes the reservation members are catching. Buckets full of them."
With the steadily increasing numbers of wheelhouses we can now put more fishing pressure/angler hours on each acre of State waters in 1 day then the Band Members put on each acre of Band waters in a year.
" Doesn't seem like people are seeing as many fish with electronics either."
If a fish is caught it no longer shows up on electronics. That walleye a person is waiting to see on our flashers. Somebody has already ate it or hauled it home yesterday, last week or last month.

Posted on: 2/12 21:36:01
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Re: Walleye numbers
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"How do you/they come up with 190,663 pounds of fish being harvested?"
From the DNR Creel Census. I don't care if you believe me or not Lubricant. I've spent most of my life working out on URL in the winter and your post under "Rental moves" insulted me good enough that I know we will never be anything close to friends.
For the rest of you as far as the Red Lake Band the"Safe Harvest' pounds per acre is the same on both sides of the "Line". For the past 3 years the State waters have had an average of 4.14 pounds of walleyes harvested per acre. The Bands waters have had an average of 3.62 pounds per acre for the past 3 years. It is easier for the Band to keep a tally on harvest as every fish is counted as it comes into the Fisheries so they do not need to relay on a creel census. When fishing for the fisheries a band member checks out a tub in the morning to put their fish in and then checks the tub and fish back in to the Fisheries that evening. Caught with too many fish without a tub and you are in serious trouble. Over limits or illegal length walleyes and you are looking at the possibility of jail time. We have 2 CO's working most times on the State Waters while the Band has up to 15 CO's working the lakes.

Posted on: 1/28 22:24:55
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Re: Walleye numbers
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For the 2016 harvest year we harvested 190,663 pounds of walleyes from the State waters of URL. That was the second biggest harvest ever from the State waters. 94% of the angler hours/fishing pressure came in the 3 winter months. Dec. Jan. Feb. With the rapidly increasing numbers of wheelhouses and the resulting increase in fishing pressure everybody's slice of the pie has become a lot smaller. That bucket full of fish people used to catch in an afternoon is still being caught but it is spread out among many more fishermen.
"Attached are recent photos of how many walleyes you can catch in hours on the reservation side. "

The most important thing there is that the Red lake Band members are far, far better fishermen then most of the fishermen on the State waters. They go out on the lake, drill their holes and fish. They are concentrating on fishing. Over on the State waters people are making sure their furnace is running right, that their generator is running and that they are getting good TV reception. While they are doing all of that as well as checking their smartphone for anything new the Band members are FISHING.

Posted on: 1/28 14:13:59
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Re: Need to bring plow to get away
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"Just checking if anyone knows the snow conditions? and if I should bring my plow along to get away from the crowds."
You should check with the people running the road you are on before plowing any plowbanks up. All plowbanks on the lake will eventually drift in and sink from the weight creating a slush pocket that keeps any other roads from crossing that area. The roads try hard to not put up any unnecessary banks all winter and try to only put banks where they will not be in the way later in the winter. A bank in the wrong place can shut off access to huge areas later in the winter. Also if a person plows a trail/small road somewhere others will follow and if the wind blows everybody there could become trapped. I know that at least one road is discouraging trucks with plows already.
"Lake update: At this time we are asking no trucks with plows through our access to help with our future roads."

Posted on: 1/10 21:56:35
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Re: Any luck out on red?
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bullwinkled wrote:
. The drive back on Thursday AM was awful. Three wheelhouses in ditch between Rogers Corner Acess and Bemidji. We were almost rear ended when we slowed for the first ditched house, guy behind me did not look ahead at the commotion on the road and was headed right for me at high rate of speed until he hit the ditch. Slowed him quickly. The travel on the ice was getting bad with the wind and snow drifting. Too much traffic, will be my last year up there as I don't need white knuckle driving on icy roads with houses roaring down the road at excessive speeds for the conditions.

There are a lot of people that agree with you and are calling for a LARGE increase of law enforcement on the highways.
This was posted on the Beltrami County Sheriffs Facebook page a few hours ago so I would guess that there will be a lot of law enforcement in the area.

Beltrami County Sheriff's Office added 2 new photos.
4 hrs
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PULLING A FISH HOUSE???
PLEASE USE CAUTION AND SLOW DOWN...
We've seen a large number of spin outs and crashes involving fish houses yesterday and today. Please use caution and slow down.

Posted on: 2016/12/30 20:45
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Re: Red Lake Walleye
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IceCastle71 wrote:
Does anyone know what the fall walleye counts were on Upper Red or have a link to the report. Just wondering how it compares to recent years.

For the 11 years since walleye fishing resumed on the State waters of URL the average yearly pounds harvested is 127,212 pounds per year. For the 2016 harvest year, (Dec. 2015 to Nov. 2016), 190,663 pounds were harvested. That was the second biggest yearly harvest ever from the State waters of URL. Second only to the 2014 harvest year when 231,135 pounds were harvested.
Fishing pressure remained high at 1,749,994 angler hours. It is interesting that there were 1,507,469 angler hours or 86% of the yearly total in just Jan. & Feb. Dec. had 133,444 angler hours. All of the summer angler hours were 110,081. So 94% of the angling pressure on URL came in the 3 winter months. It shows the pressure the increasing number of wheelhouses are putting on the lakes.

Posted on: 2016/12/17 0:10
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Re: Quota Reached But Lake Still Open
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snow wrote:

I do know the red lake tribe started out hook-n-line when they started up they're commercial fishery when the lake reopened but after the 1st year of our stocking program they said it wasn't cost effective and they declared they would comense netting the following year,native est last year was around 1million pounds of walleye,non natives fishing only a 3rd of upper red recorded 200k,but do we really know how many walleyes were netted? lower red is dark territory

"would comense netting the following year,"
For the last harvest year 81% of the walleyes coming into the Red Lake Fisheries were caught by hook and line by Red Lake Band members.
"native est last year was around 1million pounds of walleye,non natives fishing only a 3rd of upper red recorded 200k,"
Safe allowable harvest per acre in the Red Lakes is the same for State waters as it is for Red Lake Band waters. Since the agreement was signed the Red Lake Band has NEVER exceeded the Safe allowable harvest from their waters.
For the State waters of Upper Red Lake a little different story. For the 2014 harvest year the top of Safe allowable harvest was 3.5 pounds of walleyes per acre. That ment that the top of Safe harvest for the State waters was 168,000 pounds of walleyes. We harvested 231,135 pounds of walleyes or 4.81 pounds per acre. For the same harvest year the Red Lake Band harvested 3.35 pounds of walleyes per acre.

Posted on: 2016/8/12 20:24
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Re: MN Dnr finally fixes Mille Lacs
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" the pillaging began in 1999 by all 8 tribes taking several tons of spawning walleyes every spring,they not only killed the spawning walleyes but also destroyed millions of walleye eggs due to they're selfeshness and greed"
snow, You have repeatedly posted that sport fishermen could not have contributed to the walleye collapse of the Red Lakes. Before the collapse sport fishermen were putting fish traps and gill nets in the rivers and streams during the walleye spawning run to harvest spawning walleyes.
So snow do you consider it OK or not OK to harvest spawning walleyes?
"the red lake natives with libral harvest regs"
During the walleye recovery the top limit of walleye safe harvest was the same on both State waters and Band waters. 3.5 pounds per acre. The Band has NEVER gone over the top of the their safe harvest limit.
"now we see our dnr scrambling to slow the kill ratio by regulating the non natives."
Even with the "scrambling" to reduce harvest during the 2014 harvest year we ended up harvesting 4.81 pounds of walleye per acre from the State waters of URL. Remember that the top of safe harvest during the recovery was 3.5 pounds per acre.
snow, by now you should realize that if you post lies about the Red Lakes that there is a very good chance that I will expose you.

Posted on: 2016/4/11 14:38
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Re: Beacon harbor
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Beacon's road is now at 6 miles. To give everyone more room Hillman's road is parallel to Beacon's 1 mile south and is now out 7 miles to some rough ice and then it angles another 2 1/2 miles to the NW. 9 1/2 miles to the end of Hillman's road. This extension of Hillman's road opens up over 6 square miles of lake that has not been fished hard yet this winter. Cross country travel is pretty good if you watch out for rough ice patches.

Posted on: 2016/1/28 21:14
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