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Outside panel to review Mille Lacs & DNR policy
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Posted on: 6/7 11:18:35
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Re: Outside panel to review Mille Lacs & DNR policy
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"The DNR also believes that high Mille Lacs catch rates this summer donít necessarily mean the lakeís walleyes have rebounded."

I finally agree with the DNR!!

(there was never an issue in the first place, so of course there was no "rebound")

Posted on: 6/7 12:15:58
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Re: Outside panel to review Mille Lacs & DNR policy
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The bite is great. There are lots of walleyes in the system right now. But they are predominately the 2013 year class. What happened that year? Oh, we had late (very late) ice out and they couldn't net.

Coincidence?????

Posted on: 6/8 12:36:20
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Re: Outside panel to review Mille Lacs & DNR policy
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lindy and 2014 late ice out...yup two banner yoy back to back.

Suprised fishpole hasn't chimed in,wonder if he pulled the pin@ hunter's? been a hard few years trying to make a living around mille lacs.

Posted on: 6/8 12:44:40
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Re: Outside panel to review Mille Lacs & DNR policy
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Nope! Not a coincidence at all. The main, not sole but main systematic breakdown and depletion of the resource has been and continues to be netting.

Posted on: 6/9 11:47:18
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Re: Outside panel to review Mille Lacs & DNR policy
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Only as a reason for The Slot.

The Slots are what have hosed the lake.

Posted on: 6/9 12:41:01
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Re: Outside panel to review Mille Lacs & DNR policy
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Bandersnatch wrote:
Only as a reason for The Slot.

The Slots are what have hosed the lake.


^this

The protection of trophy class fish of multiple different species decimated the forage base.

No forage=poor year over year recruitment=eye fry and fingerlings becoming the primary forage base=collapse.

Posted on: 6/9 15:49:18
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Re: Outside panel to review Mille Lacs & DNR policy
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Quote:

JJ wrote:
Quote:

Bandersnatch wrote:
Only as a reason for The Slot.

The Slots are what have hosed the lake.


^this

The protection of trophy class fish of multiple different species decimated the forage base.

No forage=poor year over year recruitment=eye fry and fingerlings becoming the primary forage base=collapse.


If this is true then how do remote Canadian lakes keep going? Nobody is taking larger fish yet they still produce year classes. They are essentially catch and release.

Here's an idea go into the Aitkin office and go through their area lake files. See how many lake are at or near an all time low for yellow perch. It's likely near 75% of the lakes are that way. 75% of the lakes don't have slots so it's gonna be something else. Perch are the problem, and it's not just in Mille Lacs. They have crashed in hundreds of lakes, and nobody knows why.

Of course it's easier to blame the bands or DNR when you don't understand something.

Posted on: 6/9 17:52:05
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Re: Outside panel to review Mille Lacs & DNR policy
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I know that netting during spawn is not helping. How else can you explain the big boom we are seeing now? (no nets that year!) All the fishing rules and regs we have for ALL lakes in Minnesota are designed around protecting walleyes during the spawn.

I agree it's a complex subject. But let's at least start with the obvious.

I was talking with my resort owner this past weekend and sounds like one of the harvest proposals is one fish over 20" and one fish under 20". This may help spread out the year class harvest better than the previous slots.

Posted on: 6/12 15:28:13
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Re: Outside panel to review Mille Lacs & DNR policy
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Quote:

otter wrote:
Quote:

JJ wrote:
Quote:

Bandersnatch wrote:
Only as a reason for The Slot.

The Slots are what have hosed the lake.


^this

The protection of trophy class fish of multiple different species decimated the forage base.

No forage=poor year over year recruitment=eye fry and fingerlings becoming the primary forage base=collapse.


If this is true then how do remote Canadian lakes keep going? Nobody is taking larger fish yet they still produce year classes. They are essentially catch and release.

Here's an idea go into the Aitkin office and go through their area lake files. See how many lake are at or near an all time low for yellow perch. It's likely near 75% of the lakes are that way. 75% of the lakes don't have slots so it's gonna be something else. Perch are the problem, and it's not just in Mille Lacs. They have crashed in hundreds of lakes, and nobody knows why.

Of course it's easier to blame the bands or DNR when you don't understand something.


Simple. They are not netting the remote ones and destroying year classes of fish. A unbalanced lake of if only a couple year classes will destroy a lake. Similar to have a slot and eleminating on a certain year class

Posted on: 6/12 16:27:07
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