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Re: rightful owners
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I really hate jumping in on these, but I hate worse seeing pitchfork nation get riled up when it's clear that nobody impartially read the article. First did you see the part where the BIA actually gave up the land to the Chippewa National Forest by mistake? Then our congress decided, "oops, your mistake I guess we'll keep it." And then did you read where it says that the band has no plans for the land and its current land use will continue including hunting and fishing for natives and nonnatives alike? Why don't you all go ice fishing or something. Put the burning torches out first though so you don't fall through...


Well, than maybe you shouldn't have jumped in you diehard blue balled democrat.

Because your not seeing my point. Tina Smith has a hidden agenda which she failed to express during her bid for OUR senate seat.

And taking social justice, the ojibwe fought the Lakota for their hunting territory and are NOT the rightful stewards of the land.

But. Go ahead and try and ask the sovereign nation of the Chippewa if they should give the territory back to the Lakota.

And when our nation makes a statement how the Russians influenced our general election why don't you ask yourself next time how much influence from top to bottom these sovereign nations have on OUR governing body.

I surely am not allowed to cast a vote in their election process but they are allowed to vote in our elections. Might as well let the.Russian vote in.the UStoo

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Re: rightful owners
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You should need one of these to get into and out of the casino as well then.

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Re: rightful owners
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Don't jump in if you don't want to. There is so much information and case law a person could find compelling evidence to back up just about any thoughts on either side of the native/non native arguments.There is documents/evidence that people(s) occupied and used the land long before the civil war and american indians for that matter.So......if you can find proof your the first documented user or tiller of said land is it or should it be homesteaded to you and or your clan/family??????

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Re: rightful owners
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No thanks I'm not a gambler. And it's funny to me that someone's idea of name calling is accusing someone of being the opposite political party to theirs because you know, laws in this country should be passed unilaterally without healthy debate....LOL. BTW I'm not a democrat either, I'm somebody who read the article, unabated by the years of pointy tinfoil hat consipiracy theories about hidden agendas and the illuminati.

It's a moot point who had the land first, because the last control of the land was native before the BIA mistakenly wrote it off to Chippewa National Forest. It was native land - the US government took it for US Forest Service land BY MISTAKE, then said "even though it was a mistake we'll keep it anyway" and now 70 years later they are returning it to who had it before the mistake was made. Seriously....did you read the article?!?! Yeah, it just wreaks of hidden agenda. Even if some of the land had title ownership that was being "returned" to the tribe, my guess is that it would be in reservation acreage only, but again, it is FOREST SERVICE LAND. So it doesn't matter.

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Re: rightful owners
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arneb04 wrote:
No thanks I'm not a gambler. And it's funny to me that someone's idea of name calling is accusing someone of being the opposite political party to theirs because you know, laws in this country should be passed unilaterally without healthy debate....LOL. BTW I'm not a democrat either, I'm somebody who read the article, unabated by the years of pointy tinfoil hat consipiracy theories about hidden agendas and the illuminati.

It's a moot point who had the land first, because the last control of the land was native before the BIA mistakenly wrote it off to Chippewa National Forest. It was native land - the US government took it for US Forest Service land BY MISTAKE, then said "even though it was a mistake we'll keep it anyway" and now 70 years later they are returning it to who had it before the mistake was made. Seriously....did you read the article?!?! Yeah, it just wreaks of hidden agenda. Even if some of the land had title ownership that was being "returned" to the tribe, my guess is that it would be in reservation acreage only, but again, it is FOREST SERVICE LAND. So it doesn't matter.


I say no thank too. I don't go to the casino. But there is a an agenda with the mille lacs band. I have inside info at mille lacs corperate level but no proof but hear say.

I have more walleye in my freezer that belong to my step-son who by the way is a band member. I raised him with an open mind. He has researched most of what we discuss about numerous issue and not just band related issues. And has drawn his own conclusions that reflect my stance.

but if one is to right a wrong than less one should press for a complete correction of such social justice issues.

As Tina Smith stated" she fought hard to get her foot into BIA"; most likely embraced by the ojibwe lobbyist to do their bidding in Washington.

This by far is not coming to an end.

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Re: rightful owners
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If you think I'm full of it... Here is what is left of just walleye cheek meat. About a pound and a half

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Re: rightful owners
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And for anyone else out there talking netting...

A special spearing regulation this spring allowed band member to harvest above their daily bag limit of 10 fish a day

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Re: rightful owners
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I don't know how you twisted the thread to netting & spearing but....well done.

Posted on: 2018/12/21 15:37
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Re: rightful owners
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I did read the article. Not so fast........there is case law that DOES consider WHOM was first to cultivate or USE the land. Many land disputes between the different tribes(and many others) long before we(Europeans) ever came here. Get the picture Arne? There's much more here than meets the eye!I'm not suggesting here that it will be a factor in future rulings but there is a chance. The article you are referring to is just that an article. (Newspaper)(s) arent ever bias are they? Especially the Red Star. Good advice Arne, I'm going fishing now.............don't fall in!c63

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