Thanks for the info , I will wait for awhile, but, if any of you, want to get any more info on the ice , or the plowing of snow , now that we have some, Frankies plows the road on Chisago, and if you call them , they will let you know when they start and what they find for Ice thickness , by the road or what people have told them , just remember to help them out , some by frequenting their establishment, I’m not saying they are the only place to check, but they have been real fair with me, Its just always feels safer to me to go out after a larger plow truck, has been on the ice, but remember, its never completely safe