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    Bobber
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      Location: Mille Lacs Lake, eastside
      Member Since: Jan 2006
      Posts: 1540

      Show support for ending the Mille Lacs mess! Are you a friend of Mille Lacs? Do you agree Minnesota government must end treaty management and its intolerable impacts on our Mille Lacs sport-fishing heritage—the fish, the economy, and Mille Lacs-connected people near and far? You can demonstrate support for Mille Lacs in St. Paul on Thursday Nov. 20 — 9:30 a.m., in Courtroom 100 at the Minnesota Judicial Center, 25 Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd. A three- judge panel of the Minnesota Court of Appeals will hear oral arguments in a Mille Lacs-related lawsuit wherein two citizen groups, a resort, and two individuals take on the Minnesota DNR for failing to protect our Mille Lacs fishing heritage. Whatever the legal merits of this particular case, and wherever it goes, all friends of Mille Lacs can agree that the severe destruction and damage to our fishing heritage must end now! State officials must scrap their callous indifference and end the misguided policies that have ruined the Mille Lacs heritage—for anglers, for businesses, and for thousands of longtime Mille Lacs lovers. CITIZEN DISCONTENT IS AT AN ALL-TIME HIGH—AND JUSTIFIABLY SO! Intolerable costs: • LAKEʼS IMAGE WRECKED! Thank DNRʼs Mille Lacs-related press releases, publications, road shows, and headline stories about fish-population surveys, fish harvests, the latest allowable harvests and angling regs, etc. Fisheries science is fine, but DNRʼs one-of-a-kind Mille Lacs treaty management pushes a public-relations nightmare. • ANGLERS AVOIDING MILLE LACS! Boat counts and angler-hours on the lake have plummeted! Accesses and once-popular fishing grounds are often empty—even at prime times and under ideal conditions. Why? Misperceptions about no walleyes; extremist management; and lots of folks just plain fed up with it all. • OPTIMISM DESTROYED! The black cloud never lifts. Stressed-out Mille Lacs folks face endless hassle and uncertainty. Who can be happy and optimistic? DNRʼs treaty management brings ever-changing allowable harvests, hooking-mortality penalties, and tight angling restrictions. Mille Lacs canʼt win. If fish numbers are high or low, if fishing is fast or slow, itʼs scary news. • GILLNETTING GAME FISH? Gillnetting walleyes, northern pike, and muskies—especially on spawning grounds—is culturally offensive to most Minnesotans. In many minds, the mere presence of gill nets (a handful, or miles of ʻem) makes Mille Lacs a “netted lake,” a “crashed” fishery, and “another Red Lake.” What a p.r disaster! • ANTI-DNR FEELINGS RUN DEEP! DNR Fisheries managers are sharp biologists and good people. But their political loyalty to the flawed treaty-management system has been bad for all involved, including Mille Lacs walleyes and DNR! Fisheries personnel admit to “backward” management and unwise regulation, so why donʼt state leaders fight the system? Remember, no treaty and no court ordered tribal managers to permit eight Chippewa bands (six from Wisconsin) to gillnet Mille Lacs walleye spawners. And Minnesota governmentʼs hands are not tied. They can, and must, work to end the mess! Call it a grassroots movement, a revolution, or wronged citizens rightfully challenging their government. The Mille Lacs sport-fishing community near and far demands action.

      Bob "Bobber" Carlson

      You can tell how big a person is, by what it takes to discourage them! "Hooks"

      #631721
      fishnpole
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        Location: North shore of Mille Lacs
        Member Since: May 2012
        Posts: 1757

        This is the culmination of years of work. You can bet I’ll be there to show support for this historic case involving the lake we all live and work on.

        #631722
        Bandersnatch
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          Member Since: Feb 2005
          Posts: 3409

          Good luck!

          Hope that this doesn’t fall on deaf ears.

          #631723
          snow
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            Location: central mn
            Member Since: Jul 2007
            Posts: 4607

            THanx for the headsup bobber!

            #631724
            Bobber
            Participant

              Location: Mille Lacs Lake, eastside
              Member Since: Jan 2006
              Posts: 1540

              Bandersnatch wrote:
              Good luck!

              Hope that this doesn’t fall on deaf ears.

              print/copy all your friends on the above paper….

              Show Support!

              Thank you

              Bob "Bobber" Carlson

              You can tell how big a person is, by what it takes to discourage them! "Hooks"

              #631725
              Nelson
              Participant

                Member Since: Feb 2006
                Posts: 308

                Too funny. Complain for years about the supposed poor shape of of the lake, then complain more when people start to believe it and stop coming. Gin up contempt for the DNR and then use the ginned up contempt as a rallying cry.

                The number of audience members attending a hearing doesn’t win legal battles. Legal merit does. This case has no merit

                #631726
                Bandersnatch
                Participant

                  Member Since: Feb 2005
                  Posts: 3409

                  Trust me.

                  No one has ever had to “gin up” any contempt for the MNDNR policies on this end.

                  #631727
                  fishnpole
                  Participant

                    Location: North shore of Mille Lacs
                    Member Since: May 2012
                    Posts: 1757

                    Nelson wrote:
                    Too funny. Complain for years about the supposed poor shape of of the lake, then complain more when people start to believe it and stop coming. Gin up contempt for the DNR and then use the ginned up contempt as a rallying cry.

                    The number of audience members attending a hearing doesn’t win legal battles. Legal merit does. This case has no merit

                    We believe our hunting and fishing heritage is merit enough to have the case decided in our favor, Nelson. I appreciate your usual opposing viewpoint, but according to treaty law and the laws of the State of Minnesota, the court will decide on points of fact. We believe we can present these facts. Fact #1 of course is that the entire sportsfishing community, along with hunters of Minnesota are deeply concerned that the MN DNR rules and policies have diminished our hunting and fishing heritage.
                    The more concerned hunters and fishermen we have on hand for the hearing will be proof of that.

                    #631728
                    8x18lodge
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                      Location: buffalo
                      Member Since: Oct 2013
                      Posts: 23

                      Thanks for the heads up on Mille Lacs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                      #631719
                      fishnpole
                      Participant

                        Location: North shore of Mille Lacs
                        Member Since: May 2012
                        Posts: 1757

                        Now that the Court of Appeals hearing has been set…
                        We Need You There!

                        “Now that the Court of Appeals hearing has been set, the lawsuit
                        process is in full swing and we hope you will attend. We need your
                        support and attendance to fill the courtroom!”

                        We are hoping for standing room only to let Judges know this is effecting all Minnesotans, their heritage and the Mille Lacs Lake Walleye population.

                        When: November 20 at 9:30 am
                        Where: Minnesota Judicial Center,
                        25 Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd
                        Courtroom 100
                        St. Paul, Minnesota 55101

                        Now we are asking, will you be part of this coalition?
                        “Join us on November 20th at the Minnesota Judicial Center to
                        build a grassroots movement that will strengthen us all.”

                        – PERM,
                        – Save Mille Lacs Sport Fishing,
                        – Twin Pines Resort,
                        – Bill Eno,
                        – Fred Dally,
                        and Attorney Erick Kaardal
                        https://www.savemillelacssportfishing.org
                        Directions to courthouse

                        #631729
                        Bobber
                        Participant

                          Location: Mille Lacs Lake, eastside
                          Member Since: Jan 2006
                          Posts: 1540

                          My wife and I are heading down early Thursday morning for the hearing to be held. Looking forward to seeing the needed support for this important case!

                          I was thinking about taking 35E down to the capital….any heads up to issues taking this route?? help?

                          thanks,

                          Bob "Bobber" Carlson

                          You can tell how big a person is, by what it takes to discourage them! "Hooks"

                          #631730
                          GNFSHN
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                            Location: Coon Rapids
                            Member Since: Dec 2005
                            Posts: 1007

                            There’s alot of construction going on but the Uni exit is still open

                            I totally take back all those times I didn't want to nap when I was younger.
                            #631731
                            BigWerm
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                              Location: Chaska, MN
                              Member Since: Jun 2010
                              Posts: 1323

                              Hope to see/meet many of you tomorrow.

                              Crush 'EM
                              #631732
                              fishnpole
                              Participant

                                Location: North shore of Mille Lacs
                                Member Since: May 2012
                                Posts: 1757

                                See you there BigWerm, Bobber and everybody else that’s going.

                                #631733
                                BigWerm
                                Participant

                                  Location: Chaska, MN
                                  Member Since: Jun 2010
                                  Posts: 1323

                                  I was at the hearing, but didn’t have time to chat after. Thought there was a decent turnout with 60-70 people by my count. Thought it was interesting and sadly comical that the DNR attorney had no idea on what the actual rules and regulations were on Mille Lacs.

                                  Crush 'EM
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