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  • #677433
    grasshopper
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      Location: Ramsey
      Member Since: Apr 2013
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      Does the dnr officially call it ice out? Just wondering because I could win $200 at work if my guess of April 5th at 2:20pm is closer than any other guess.

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      #677434
      Anonymous

        Member Since: Jan 1970
        Posts: 19694

        grasshopper wrote:
        Does the dnr officially call it ice out? Just wondering because I could win $200 at work if my guess of April 5th at 2:20pm is closer than any other guess.

        The Mille Lacs Messenger makes the “official call” and the DNR uses that for “historical” records. The Mille Lacs Messenger will use a select few “lake veterans” to help them make the “call”….

        My assumption is it will be today –the 4th….

        #677411
        Isleman
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          Member Since: Apr 2012
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          grasshopper wrote:
          Does the dnr officially call it ice out? Just wondering because I could win $200 at work if my guess of April 5th at 2:20pm is closer than any other guess.

          That ice in the southeast corner still looks pretty substantial by satellite and on the lake cams. Also, it’s a pretty cold day so keep the faith grasshopper you might win that $200 bucks yet.

          #677435
          Anonymous

            Member Since: Jan 1970
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            Isleman wrote:

            grasshopper wrote:
            Does the dnr officially call it ice out? Just wondering because I could win $200 at work if my guess of April 5th at 2:20pm is closer than any other guess.

            That ice in the southeast corner still looks pretty substantial by satellite and on the lake cams. Also, it’s a pretty cold day so keep the faith grasshopper you might win that $200 bucks yet.

            You can pretty much assume the “call” will be either “ice out on April 4th between noon and 11:59 pm.” or “ice out between midnight and noon on April 5th”. The “secret” discussion ( DNR “closed meeting style”) will be ongoing all day–with a wind switch to the SE in the forecast for late today/ tonight in mind.

            #677396
            grasshopper
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              Location: Ramsey
              Member Since: Apr 2013
              Posts: 52

              I know this is getting a bit technical but is there an exact point at each of the two locations, Garrison and Isle Bay, that have to be free from ice?

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              #677417
              Anonymous

                Member Since: Jan 1970
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                grasshopper wrote:
                I know this is getting a bit technical but is there an exact point at each of the two locations, Garrison and Isle Bay, that have to be free from ice?

                No….”exact” location but within reason. 2-3 years ago, for example, if you had wanted to leave from Garrison by boat from the Concourse( middle of Garrison) …it could not happen as there was a bay full of ice from there south to the point. BUT–from the Garrison Creek Marina–part of Garrison? It was clear to go to Isle. So…no…TOO TECHNICAL?? That scenario was deemed “ice out”.

                #677436
                Anonymous

                  Member Since: Jan 1970
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                  Not official on April 4th for sure. Maybe the 5th?? The lake is entirely ice free Garrison to within a mile of Isle…go figure. SE wind might take that ice blocking the mouth out in front/north of Isle Bay overnight or tomorrow….

                  #677437
                  Anonymous

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                    #677439
                    grasshopper
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                      Location: Ramsey
                      Member Since: Apr 2013
                      Posts: 52

                      Thanks for all the updates Steve.
                      Do you know if the dnr uses the same data from the messenger?
                      The ice-out contest at my work states “Ice out is determined by the date and time Lake Mille Lacs is free of ice according to the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources 2016 Ice-Out record.”

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                      #677440
                      Anonymous

                        Member Since: Jan 1970
                        Posts: 19694

                        grasshopper wrote:
                        Thanks for all the updates Steve.
                        Do you know if the dnr uses the same data from the messenger?
                        The ice-out contest at my work states “Ice out is determined by the date and time Lake Mille Lacs is free of ice according to the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources 2016 Ice-Out record.”

                        Yes….I believe they do.

                        #677441
                        Walleye-Student
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                          Location: Minneapolis & Myr Mar Villas
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                          SteveFellegy wrote:
                          Done deal…..about 2-3 pm. today!

                          http://www.messagemedia.co/millelacs/news/official-ice-out-for-mille-lacs-lake-april/article_f283c370-fb72-11e5-9334-13df2b2299cf.html

                          Curious, when the ice out is declared that would be when one could navigate a boat from Garrison to Isle without being obstructed from ice. Is that just theoretically, or does someone actually drive a boat to officially confirm? I’m thinking the former but years ago before satellite images someone would actually have to make that trip to “do declare” ! That being, it could be that official ice out years ago was declared somewhat later than now because someone would have to get in a boat and navigate across. I’m just trying to imagine the history of it all. Fun to think about.

                          #677442
                          Anonymous

                            Member Since: Jan 1970
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                            Walleye-Student wrote:

                            SteveFellegy wrote:
                            Done deal…..about 2-3 pm. today!

                            http://www.messagemedia.co/millelacs/news/official-ice-out-for-mille-lacs-lake-april/article_f283c370-fb72-11e5-9334-13df2b2299cf.html

                            Curious, when the ice out is declared that would be when one could navigate a boat from Garrison to Isle without being obstructed from ice. Is that just theoretically, or does someone actually drive a boat to officially confirm? I’m thinking the former but years ago before satellite images someone would actually have to make that trip to “do declare” ! That being, it could be that official ice out years ago was declared somewhat later than now because someone would have to get in a boat and navigate across. I’m just trying to imagine the history of it all. Fun to think about.

                            I and a few others made many a dang cold/wet trips across from Garrison to Isle by boat to declare/confirm ice out. On a few occasions, we had to turn back…ran into ice we didn’t see from shore.

                            Nowadays (the past 10-15 years or so) between better high power Optics we use and viewing from the highest point of land available plus the sky pics, it is much easier to confirm–as well as MUCH warmer. In other words–we got smarter–and too old to make that dang trip.

                            Ice out “bets/contests” have been an annual event as many years as I go back and beyond. Early on, everything was, has been and still is used to be as accurate as possible. Unfortunately, that meant too many times, I got wet and cold for 20 plus miles in a boat. Lots of “pressure” the past 2-4 days to get it right…LOL ( I put on over 400 miles the past few days “watching” the ice) Been fights/heated arguments over the years! From some vantage points, every year, even after ice out is declared, nothing but ice is in sight. A few times, people have had to go to a high point and use the 60 power spotting scope to believe us…

                            #677443
                            tomfellegy
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                              Location: cove bay lake mille lacs
                              Member Since: Oct 2008
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                              I hope it’s out, I put my dock in today.

                              #677444
                              Anonymous

                                Member Since: Jan 1970
                                Posts: 19694

                                tomfellegy wrote:
                                I hope it’s out, I put my dock in today.

                                A few years back, the ice made it’s first big move and was out about a half mile from the north shore. So this guy who had just bought a cabin along there, is rolling his dock out as I drive by. (I hadn’t met him yet) I put the brakes on and stopped and told him “that ain’t good”! He wasn’t happy but he did pull it back up the bank and back to it’s winter spot. Next morning the ice was 15ft. high on his lawn. LOL He learned, before it became bent up like a pretzel, as many others have doing the same.
                                YES…it is OUT!! Casting off the dock is now good to go….no live bait lol?

                                #677445
                                tomfellegy
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                                  Location: cove bay lake mille lacs
                                  Member Since: Oct 2008
                                  Posts: 207

                                  “no live bait” isn’t until opener. I do catch plenty walleye off my dock casting plastics and stick baits. I haven’t seen any information on the dock slot, when it goes into effect and what the limit will be?

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